So, I’m going to do more on my “10 ways with … ” series later in the week, but right now this is an extra, as I can’t get my brain around some things and thought writing them down would help. I then thought there might be others with the same questions / ponderings, so decided to write on here (rather than just a piece of paper at home) in case I can help anyone else. It might not be in any very good order, or even full sentences, and certainly not complete
I am confused by the current vaccination program premise …
These are the “facts” we have been told that seem to relate. I do not put the word fact in inverted commas in an attempt to be difficult or suggest I don’t believe them, but because I can’t see how all of them can be fact … as I can’t figure out how they can all be correct at once – and this is why I am confused and struggling to make sense of the information.
Can anyone help?
SARS-CoV-2 is rife in the population
A proportion of people are asymptomatic with it, but can still spread it (this does not actually seem to be known for definite, although of course most viruses are spread prior to symptoms, or even from asymptomatic carriers) https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4851
Only 3-8% have had Covid so we are no where near herd immunity levels
1 in 11 people have antibodies (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9050849/One-11-people-Covid-8-9-England-coronavirus-antibodies.html)
Many people do not develop persistent antibodies, but should have T-cell immunity
Many NHS staff are exposed daily and are at risk from Covid Illness (but apparently most still haven’t had it??)
The NHS staff need the vaccine first to be safe (even though they’ve been exposed daily for months now)
A positive PCR = a case (even if asymptomatic)
Cases will fall as vaccination occurs
Vaccination does not prevent transmission only reduces symptoms (ie you are more likely to be asymptomatic??)
I can’t make all these add up. Can anyone else?
Thanks for your input! I would love to hear from other GP’s, Immunologists and virologists in particular.
Yep – thank you Fiona – my logical medically-trained brain has been hurting for 10+ months with things not all seeming to add up…I agree that many of those presumptions – that are so categorically stated as ‘facts’ ministers, backed by media-quoted ‘top’ doctors/scientists – cannot all be true as many are so confounding or mutually incompatible?
There are a few elephants in rooms…
Some key issues that don’t seem to be openly discussed but I think could be important:
-seasonality – surely a BIGGIE – and seen with most resp infections eg summer disappearance of COVID, surprise surprise re-emerging with temp change in autumn (3-4 week difference between north and south second waves)
– there are so many conflicting theories about how it’s spread, which seem to be used partly to justify controls – but is it really entirely down to human behaviour/misbehaviour?
– as you say, as hospital staff, we have been repeatedly exposed to Covid positive patients for 9 months and yet we apparently all still need vaccinating first? – is it not likely many of us are immune by now? Regarding recent outbreaks in hospitals, we wear PPE, yet patients mingle on wards/go to ward bathrooms etc without PPE…
-a significant proportion of pts on COVID wards are not on oxygen this time around (no respiratory signs/symptoms- in with all the usual things patients are admitted with over winter) – does this not suggest their immune system works well (that’s surely good news not bad news!)
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